When is a grape not a grape?

[PhilHunt]

I have a question from one of my Italian students.
He is friends with a guy from New York and has been told by this friend that 'grape' can be used as a term of offense; something akin to 'stupid'. Can anyone confirm this?

[Ken Greenwald]

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Phil, I never heard grape used to mean ‘stupid.’

Here’s a feeble guess for a grape/stupid connection: Black Grape was a 1990s rock band from England . . . Their Stupid Stupid Stupid was their second and final album released in 1997.

And then there's ‘sour grapes,’ but that doesn't connote ‘stupid.’

That’s better than a kick in the groan, but not by much. (<:)
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Ken – December 3, 2012

[trolley]

There's a whole pile of definitions on Urban Dictionary that I'd never heard about, but nothing relating to "stupid".

[PhilHunt]

Thank you both. I would have never made the Black Grape connection.

[Edwin F Ashworth]

Gladys Knight & The Pips should even more probably not be considered as relevant.

[Wizard of Oz]

.. when is a grape not a grape ?? .. when the English try to turn into wine !!

WoZ prefers pinot

[Edwin F Ashworth]

... when it's an alternating currant.

[trolley]

...that's raisin hell

[Erik_Kowal]

Very cute, people.

The English will never turn to water if they can help it.

[nikkimerrill]

Grapes are juicy, so if working with a tart or springform pan with removable bottom, set it on a baking sheet lined with parchment to catch spills.

[Wizard of Oz]

.. grapes go great in stir-fry, in stews .. in salads they go great when they are sautéed with cherry tomatoes and then combined with feta cheese ..

WoZ who does make small allowances for NOT crushing them