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Dictionary of English Down the Ages, by Linda & Roger Flavel

Posted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 10:42 am
by Wizard of Oz
dictionary of english down the ages
words & phrases born out of historical events great & small
by Linda & Roger Flavell

.. for me this has been a book that has awakened a whole new way of looking at the evolution of words and their mortality .. their impermanence and at times their rebirth .. the aging process and the plastic surgery to which many words are subjected .. at times reappearing as whacko Jacko and at other times coming out of the anaesthetic as a word that transforms our way of thinking .. I have developed a greater, although not complete .. *grin* .. tolerance for the variations in spelling that abound in the various forms of English ..

.. the book takes significant historical events, beginning with 1066 The Normans begin to erect castles and ending with 1989 Tim Berners-Lee makes proposals that lead to the World Wide Web, and at each point the Flavells define the birth of words that came into English as a direct consequence of that historical event .. in the process we see how words, through human usage, twist and turn and tumble into new meanings and extensions of meanings .. what IS the connection between porcelain and a sow's vulva ?? .. how are the KKK and the common bicycle connected ?? .. are vanilla and vagina related ?? .. and what words did we inherit when Cortés enters Tenochtitlan was the headline in the Aztec Times of 1519 ?? .. mispellings, misunderstandings and misnomers all played their part in the evolution of the English language .. and yes, continue to do so .. oh and BTW what the hell is unattested vulgar Latin ?? ..

WoZ of Aus 30/07/06

Dictionary of English Down the Ages, by Linda & Roger Flavel

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 11:38 am
by tony h
WoZ that is probably the most enticing book review? It is a wonder that you haven't already organised some preferential buying price for WW members.

Dictionary of English Down the Ages, by Linda & Roger Flavel

Posted: Mon Jul 31, 2006 7:11 pm
by Ken Greenwald
Wiz, On your recommendation, I’ve just ordered it – a bargain at $11.69 (plus shipping) from Amazon. And it better be good or your ass is grass! (&lt)
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Ken – July 31, 2006

Dictionary of English Down the Ages, by Linda & Roger Flavel

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 4:24 am
by daverba
I haven't read that book, but I know about the vanilla/vagina connection and, because genitals fascinate people, the book probably mentions the orchid/testicle connection. And, oddly enough (or maybe not), vanilla is an orchid.

I've written a small book on the English language for kids, and I decided to leave out the etymology of "chocolate" (as well as "vanilla") because a kid might read about chocolate and wonder about vanilla (and then go look it up). I didn't want to be responsible for flabbergasted kids and embarrassed angry parents and teachers.

The term "unattested Vulgar Latin" seems to refer to an apparent morphological derivative of one of the Latin dialects spoken in much of the Roman Empire but not extant in written form. Vulgar Latin is almost, by definition, unattested, but not necessarily so. It seems that the book wanted to explicitly express those assumptions.

Vulgar Latin survived the Roman Empire, and it is the “missing link” between Latin and the Romance languages. For example, Vulgar Latin on the Iberian Peninsula already showed signs of dropping double consonants and, as a result, Spanish typically does not double its consonants unless necessary to show distinction (pero vs perro), whereas, Italian (truer to its Latin origins) readily doubles its consonants.

On the other hand, "unattested vulgar Latin" may refer to the unconfirmed quote by Caesar: "Et tu, Brute? You @#*% scoundrel! And keep your %$!# hands off my daughter." (lol)

Dictionary of English Down the Ages, by Linda & Roger Flavel

Posted: Tue Aug 01, 2006 2:38 pm
by Wizard of Oz
.. to a Dave from a David, Thanks mate ..

.. Ken I am very confident you will enjoy the book .. well I am confident you will enjoy the book .. well make that I imagine that you will enjoy the book .. or maybe I imagine that I am confident that you will enjoy the book .. or maybe my imagination got carried away in describing the book ...... hmmmmmm maybe I had better hope to hell that the Flavells did their homework before bursting into print ........

.. nice thought Tony but I never was the businessman ..

WoZ of Aus 02/07/06

Dictionary of English Down the Ages, by Linda & Roger Flavel

Posted: Tue Jan 16, 2007 7:33 pm
by DJHampson
aside: The historical origin of "assassin" won't surprise anyone familiar with present reality.

Dictionary of English Down the Ages, by Linda & Roger Flavel

Posted: Thu Jan 18, 2007 1:53 am
by Wizard of Oz
.. DJH it would seem that the Old Man of the Mountains has never gone away ..

WoZ

Dictionary of English Down the Ages, by Linda & Roger Flavel

Posted: Mon Jan 29, 2007 6:12 pm
by DJHampson
For some that is an illusory danger...something was reminded of on the forum today.